Simple Staking Filter Polling Results

The Simple Staking Polls are closed. The tally and results are presented below.

Poll Question Forum Poll - Community Discord Poll - Council Total Votes Percentages
Validators that Block Nominations
90 days 8 2 10 55.56%
60 days 1 0 1 5.56%
30 days 4 2 6 33.33%
ever 0 1 1 5.56%
Tally 13 5 18
Fair Commission
No 2 0 2 11.11%
75.00% 2 0 2 11.11%
50.00% 0 3 3 16.67%
22.00% 9 1 10 55.56%
other 0 1 1 5.56%
Tally 13 5 18
Less than Minimum Validator Stake
Yes 5 4 9 50.00%
No 8 1 9 50.00%
Tally 13 5 18
Commission High Jinks
30 days 3 1 4 25.00%
60 days 2 0 2 12.50%
90 days 1 0 1 6.25%
ever 6 3 9 56.25%
Tally 12 4 16
Nodes With Duplicate or Gateways With Duplicate IP Addresses
Yes 6 3 9 50.00%
No 7 2 9 50.00%
Tally 13 5 18
Nodes With the Same IP Address as the Gateway
Yes 6 2 8 47.06%
No 6 3 9 52.94%
Tally 12 5 17

The xx Foundation appreciates the input from the community and council members that participated in the polling. Most of the questions’ results give a good indication of what people think should be implemented but a couple require further deliberation before a final determination is made on which filters will be implemented on the Simple Staking hosted by the xx Foundation.

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Honestly create two polls when some people can vote on both. (already catch council member using another nickname on the forum…). I can’t really understand the goal/concept of that but anyway results seem almost equal on both side.

Block nominators => 90d penalty
Commission => max 22% (I regret the 20% for match web interface)
Less stake => ignored
High Jinks => ever (not accepted both side)
Duplicate/same IP => ignored

I think that’s good choices for keep an healthy network right now.

I’ve generated a “Work In Progress” list that gives an idea of the number of validators and which validators would be filtered from Simple Staking based on different filters.

The linked spreadsheet …

… is a summary that shows ALL of the filters. However, columns B ~ E, specifically Column E, of the Overview Sheet show which would be filtered based on the poll results.

The applied filters are:

  • 90 Day Nominator Blocking
  • Fair Commission (Greater than 22%)
  • Commission High Jinks

The filters NOT applied but the data is available are:

  • Less than 15k Self-staked
  • Duplicate IPs
  • Co-located Node and Gateway

Column E is the result of applied filters based on the polling and no list has been applied to Simple Staking yet.

Again, this is a WIP! There may be mistakes, and I am happy to address those mistakes so there is no reason to kick the table over. Just let me know if there is something that looks off and I will be happy to review it.

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A note about Commission High Jinks. Determining and catching this is not as easy as it may seem. There are certainly obvious cases. For example, when a validator has called ValidatorPrefsSet hundreds if not thousands of times since the launch of MainNet, it’s pretty friggin’ obvious their up to something. But when a validator crept up to 90% commission over 6 month, 6 months ago and then dropped down to 10% and is doing it again over the past 6 months, it’s a little harder to catch.

Additionally, there are situations to consider like, a validator started at 2%. Two months later, 8%, then a month later, 18% and for 3 months at 22%. Time will tell if they drop or continue to raise.

Same goes for a validator that tests between 20% and 22% a few times but never breaks 22%.

So there is a bit to digest to come to the conclusion it is “High Jinks”.

If there is a validator filtered base on Commission High Jinks that maybe shouldn’t be or there is one that may have been missed, just provide the validator address and I will be happy to review it.

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Thank you for this work !
I think this file is pretty good for “advanced” nominators who want to verify their elected validators.

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