# Simple Staking Filter Polling Results

**URL:** <https://forum.xx.network/t/simple-staking-filter-polling-results/7192>\
**Category:** News\
**Created:** [April 1, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.xx.network/t/simple-staking-filter-polling-results/7192 "2025-04-01T01:33:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Keith](https://forum.xx.network/user_avatar/forum.xx.network/keith/32/159_2.png) [@Keith](https://forum.xx.network/u/Keith)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.xx.network/t/simple-staking-filter-polling-results/7192/1 "2025-04-01T01:33:07Z")

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The [Simple Staking Polls](https://forum.xx.network/t/rfc-simple-staking-filters/7190) are closed. The tally and results are presented below.

| Poll Question | Forum Poll - Community | Discord Poll - Council | Total Votes | Percentages |
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| Validators that Block Nominations | | | | |
| 90 days | 8 | 2 | 10 | 55.56% |
| 60 days | 1 | 0 | 1 | 5.56% |
| 30 days | 4 | 2 | 6 | 33.33% |
| ever | 0 | 1 | 1 | 5.56% |
| Tally | 13 | 5 | 18 | |
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| Fair Commission | | | | |
| No | 2 | 0 | 2 | 11.11% |
| 75.00% | 2 | 0 | 2 | 11.11% |
| 50.00% | 0 | 3 | 3 | 16.67% |
| 22.00% | 9 | 1 | 10 | 55.56% |
| other | 0 | 1 | 1 | 5.56% |
| Tally | 13 | 5 | 18 | |
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| Less than Minimum Validator Stake | | | | |
| Yes | 5 | 4 | 9 | 50.00% |
| No | 8 | 1 | 9 | 50.00% |
| Tally | 13 | 5 | 18 | |
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| Commission High Jinks | | | | |
| 30 days | 3 | 1 | 4 | 25.00% |
| 60 days | 2 | 0 | 2 | 12.50% |
| 90 days | 1 | 0 | 1 | 6.25% |
| ever | 6 | 3 | 9 | 56.25% |
| Tally | 12 | 4 | 16 | |
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| Nodes With Duplicate or Gateways With Duplicate IP Addresses | | | | |
| Yes | 6 | 3 | 9 | 50.00% |
| No | 7 | 2 | 9 | 50.00% |
| Tally | 13 | 5 | 18 | |
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| Nodes With the Same IP Address as the Gateway | | | | |
| Yes | 6 | 2 | 8 | 47.06% |
| No | 6 | 3 | 9 | 52.94% |
| Tally | 12 | 5 | 17 | |

The xx Foundation appreciates the input from the community and council members that participated in the polling. Most of the questions’ results give a good indication of what people think should be implemented but a couple require further deliberation before a final determination is made on which filters will be implemented on the [Simple Staking](https://staking.xx.network/) hosted by the xx Foundation.

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**Author:** ![warnings](https://forum.xx.network/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@warnings](https://forum.xx.network/u/warnings)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.xx.network/t/simple-staking-filter-polling-results/7192/2 "2025-04-02T18:58:57Z")

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Honestly create two polls when some people can vote on both. (already catch council member using another nickname on the forum…). I can’t really understand the goal/concept of that but anyway results seem almost equal on both side.

Block nominators =\> 90d penalty  
Commission =\> max 22% (I regret the 20% for match web interface)  
Less stake =\> ignored  
High Jinks =\> ever (not accepted both side)  
Duplicate/same IP =\> ignored

I think that’s good choices for keep an healthy network right now.

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**Author:** ![Keith](https://forum.xx.network/user_avatar/forum.xx.network/keith/32/159_2.png) [@Keith](https://forum.xx.network/u/Keith)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 4:33am UTC](https://forum.xx.network/t/simple-staking-filter-polling-results/7192/3 "2025-04-10T04:33:17Z")

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I’ve generated a “Work In Progress” list that gives an idea of the number of validators and which validators would be filtered from Simple Staking based on different filters.

The linked spreadsheet …

> **[WIP-2025-04-10-era1239](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1awHZ2jnb8GCFD9Dc4jWHR7x00ABB_kkJnx2dC0iPIls/edit?usp=sharing)**
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> This Sheet is private

… is a summary that shows ALL of the filters. However, columns B ~ E, specifically Column E, of the Overview Sheet show which would be filtered based on the poll results.

The applied filters are:

- 90 Day Nominator Blocking
- Fair Commission (Greater than 22%)
- Commission High Jinks

The filters NOT applied but the data is available are:

- Less than 15k Self-staked
- Duplicate IPs
- Co-located Node and Gateway

Column E is the result of applied filters based on the polling and no list has been applied to Simple Staking yet.

Again, this is a WIP! There may be mistakes, and I am happy to address those mistakes so there is no reason to kick the table over. Just let me know if there is something that looks off and I will be happy to review it.

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**Author:** ![Keith](https://forum.xx.network/user_avatar/forum.xx.network/keith/32/159_2.png) [@Keith](https://forum.xx.network/u/Keith)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 5:07am UTC](https://forum.xx.network/t/simple-staking-filter-polling-results/7192/4 "2025-04-10T05:07:40Z")

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A note about Commission High Jinks. Determining and catching this is not as easy as it may seem. There are certainly obvious cases. For example, when a validator has called `ValidatorPrefsSet` hundreds if not thousands of times since the launch of MainNet, it’s pretty friggin’ obvious their up to something. But when a validator crept up to 90% commission over 6 month, 6 months ago and then dropped down to 10% and is doing it again over the past 6 months, it’s a little harder to catch.

Additionally, there are situations to consider like, a validator started at 2%. Two months later, 8%, then a month later, 18% and for 3 months at 22%. Time will tell if they drop or continue to raise.

Same goes for a validator that tests between 20% and 22% a few times but never breaks 22%.

So there is a bit to digest to come to the conclusion it is “High Jinks”.

If there is a validator filtered base on Commission High Jinks that maybe shouldn’t be or there is one that may have been missed, just provide the validator address and I will be happy to review it.

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**Author:** ![warnings](https://forum.xx.network/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@warnings](https://forum.xx.network/u/warnings)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2025, 7:39am UTC](https://forum.xx.network/t/simple-staking-filter-polling-results/7192/5 "2025-04-11T07:39:19Z")

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Thank you for this work !  
I think this file is pretty good for “advanced” nominators who want to verify their elected validators.
