Thanks for the update- are the timeframes the same for Node registrations? I will need to revise my hardware based on this update today.
Cheers.
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The time-frames are not the same. You will want to have your hardware ready for when the BetaNet goes live July 1st, so you have plenty of time.
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Thanks for the update!
Will Exhibit A of the Betanet Node Agreements be updated to reflect the new hardware requirements?
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@benger great, looking forward to it! Awesome work by the whole team in getting this ramped up, excited to take the next step forward.
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Aloha, benger
If I remember correctly, you wrote that would be ready to consider - Intel Core i7 9700K.
At this moment - is it still acceptable?
Now I have platform with: Intel Core i7 9700K/Z390/MSI RTX 2070-8GB
Will it be enough?
For all other components - I’m ready to support the maximum choice, but replacing the processor will be quite expensive.
Thank you.
Hi,
The Core i7-9700K is slightly under spec according to Cinebench (-11.9%) and Passmark (-5.2%), but barely. My guess is you will be fine. Although I cannot be certain.
Because it is a K series part, you are likely to be able make up the difference with a moderate overclock, although there is always some risk in overclocking.
My recommendation would be to try it and see how it works.
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Hi,
Thank you for the specifications. 
The fastest internet that I can get at my residence is 1Gbps download and 35Mbps upload. I’m also exploring data center colocation options near me but that is a dive that I would prefer to take for MainNet. For BetaNet it would be more convenient to have the node hardware close at hand for development, testing, troubleshooting, etc.
Can I compensate for upload speed deficiency using a faster GPU and CPU and the faster download speed? For example, an RTX 2080 Super (or Ti even) and a passmark 26537 cpu (threadripper 1950x) along with the 1G x 35M internet. The gateway would be hosted in the cloud.
If the specified 100Mbps upload bandwidth is not constantly saturated then perhaps speedups elsewhere in the node can more than compensate for the slower upload speed.
Obviously this depends on your software design and how it utilizes the upload bandwidth.
Thoughts ?
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Hi,
I will run one single machine. Can you please check if all specs are fine? I will inquire few suppliers to get the best price.
Thanks.
| Type | Description | Ref. |
|---|---|---|
| CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Octa-Core 3.7GHz c/ Turbo 4.35GHz 20MB SktAM4 | YD270XBGAFBOX |
| GPU | Zotac Geforce RTX 2070 Mini Twin Fan 8GB GDDR6 | ZT-T20700E-10P |
| PSU | Seasonic PRIME Ultra 850W Gold Full Modular | SSR-850GD |
| MOBO | Motherboard Mini-ITX ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac | 90-MXB870-A0UAYZ |
| RAM | G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-2400MHz CL15 Preta | F4-2400C15D-16GIS |
| HD1 | SSD M.2 2280 Samsung 970 Pro 1TB MLC V-NAND NVMe | MZ-V7P1T0BW |
| HD2 | Samsung 860 Pro 256GB MLC V-NAND SATA | MZ-76P256B/EU |
| Case | Fractal Node 304 | FD-CA-NODE-304-BL |
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Hi,
That all looks good, although you probably can get a lower wattage PSU if you want
there is also a cheaper processor that meets spec, the Ryzen 5 3600x
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Hi,
Unfortunately, computational power and GPU power are not easily interchangeable in our protocol due to how subsets of data can be operated on by different parts of the pipeline. The upload is not saturated, but the pipeline is sequential so lower upload means the next node cannot get enough data to fully utilize its GPU.
As you understand, the other option is collocation. We are working on a guide for fitting an entire node in a 1U enclosure, which will allow it to be collocated in a datacenter for what is probably cheaper over the life of the BetaNet than the hardware upgrades you are looking into. We hope to release a guide soon.
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I guess I will be lining up a colocation option and building a 1U server then.
Hopefully a time-saving tip for those looking for colocation options: I’ve had vastly better luck googling “1U colocation” than reaching out to the data centers shown on google maps near me. Most data centers seem to rent a minimum of a half-rack (21U) at best. You may have to drive a ways.
Cheers,
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Does anyone have a recommended script to get IOPS from a linux command line? I am not sure whether my existing SSD meets the requirements. I tried using fio but the output was way way less than I was expecting. I’ll probably have to buy a nvme, but I want to be sure it’s necessary before I do. Thanks!
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Could you guys please check if the following specs would be fine for a node+gateway?
Any suggestion or comment would be welcome. I’ll finally probably buy rather than build. Thanks in advance! @benger @Icarus @Keith @alexdupre
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase MC500P (3x140mm pre-installed fans) (P/N: MCM-M500-KG5N-S00)
MOBO: Asus Prime X570-P (P/N 90MB11N0-M0EAY0)
PSU: Corsair RM750 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular (P/N CP-9020195-EU)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6GHz BOX (P/N 100-100000071BOX)
CPU Cooler: MasterLiquid Lite 240 (P/N MLW-D24M-A20PW-R1)
GPU: Asus Dual GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER EVO OC Edition 8GB GDDR6 (P/N: 90YV0DK0-M0NA00)
RAM: 2 x Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000 PC4-24000 16GB 2x8GB CL15 (P/N CMK16GX4M2B3000C15)
SSD1: Samsung SSD 970 Pro NVMe PCI-E M.2 1 TB (P/N MZ-V7P1T0BW)
SSD2: Samsung 860 Pro SSD Series 256GB (P/N MZ-76P256B/EU)
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The specs seem fine. I’m not sure that the selected RAM is in the official compatibility list of the asus motherboard, it seems not, but without the official code is difficult to check. If so you might consider a replacement for optimal stability.
Thanks. I think you are right, that RAM doesn’t seem officially compatible. I may have to upgrade the MOBO, because the Samsung 970 PRO SSD is not officially supported by Asus PRIME B450-PLUS either…
[edited] So now I’ve replaced:
- Asus PRIME B450-PLUS with Asus Prime X570-P
- Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 PC4-25600 32GB 2x16GB CL16 with 2 x Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000 PC4-24000 16GB 2x8GB CL15 (P/N CMK16GX4M2B3000C15)
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@bradford
You might prefer to monitor rather than benchmark.
I’d recommend iostat while playing some video, copy one or two large Gb+ files, copy a directory with many, many, many small files, etc.
Other tools you might consider… How to Benchmark Hard Disks in Linux But I would do more research on each to learn their limitations.
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Could Samsung 970 EVO PLUS SSD be a valid option as 1st storage for the node? It doesn’t seem bad in this benchmark comparison with the 970 PRO (remove the link spaces), though I wonder about durability:
https: // ssd.userbenchmark. com/Compare/Samsung-970-Evo-Plus-NVMe-PCIe-M2-1TB-vs-Samsung-970-Pro-NVMe-PCIe-M2-1TB/m693540vsm497261
[edited]: Sorry, never mind, I think I’ve convinced myself that the PRO is the clear winner for the node, given it’s greater endurance and durability and betanet’s (and potentially mainnet’s) requirements. The PRO has Samsung’s red square (professional endurance and warranty) distinctive (thanks @Icarus for the tip).
Thanks!
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Can you guys share some sites where we can get a desktop assembled with these parts in US?
@santoshlmn Anywhere, and be quick about it.
I had my bank flag me for “security” at purchase about 18 hours ago, and didn’t get the problem resolved until they opened about 7 hours ago. In the 11 hours between creating my cart and having my payment card reactivated, fully HALF the items in my cart went out of stock.
Newegg dot com is a reliable and professional source for hardware. They have a review system based on e-mailing specific questions to known professionals. It’s like wikihardware the store. Love 'em.
But seriously, at this point speed will save you hundreds of dollars.
Looks good!
The price of 4 sticks of 8GB RAM s about the same as 2 sticks of 16GB RAM, but has twice the pins to connect with. You get much snappier performance keeping all your RAM slots filled.
I’m doing the same thing with a blend of SATA and M.2, letting my OS sit on an M.2 drive and keeping the SATA drives exclusively for XX tx. It’s 100% unnecessary over-engineering, but it’ll be fun 
I ended up with the Asus Prime X570-P in my cart as well xD