Orange III Node Application 12003223913, submitted on 09-20-2020

Respondent ID 12003223913
Application Date 09/20/2020 1:21:27 AM
Applicant City Moscow
Applicant State/Province Moscow
Applicant Country Russia
What is your occupation? IT
How many years experience in your field? 16+
What is the highest degree or level of school you have completed? Associates degree (for example: AA, AS)
Did you purchase xx coins in the xx coin sale? No
Are you an individual or a group? Individual
Node City Helsinki (Datacenter)
Node Province
Node Country Finland
For which networks Have you ever operated a node? Ethereum (ETH, ETC, etc)
What kind of improvements would you like to see in xx network nodes vs. previous nodes you have supported? N/A
What are potential setbacks preventing you from operating an xx network node? N/A
What is a reasonable uptime estimate you can provide for your BetaNet node? 60
Please estimate the cost of electricity in the geographic area where your BetaNet node will be running. IDK (Datacenter)
On a monthly basis, how much time can you publicly commit to dedicating toward governance if you were selected as a BetaNet node operator?` 100
In what type of environment would this server be located? Datacenter
Do you have past experience deploying hardware servers in a datacenter? Yes (please describe), Hetzner, Vultr, Google
Do you already own sufficient hardware to meet the published xx network BetaNet Node specifications (found here)? No
Specs
Do you have hardware you would like to use but does not meet the stated BetaNet node specs? If so, please provide specs on that hardware below:
Why do you want to be a node? I'm interested in blockchain technologies
How did you originally hear about the xx network? xx collective
Which current xx network communities are you a member of? Discord
What specifically, interests you about the xx network platform? Interesting technology of nodes
Outside of xx network communities, are you an active participant in other node or developer community groups? If so, which ones? NKN
Have you ever attended a blockchain conference? If so, which one(s)?
Do you have past experience managing communities or creating content to be distributed across social media? Please enter details for all with which you are comfortable or have experience:
As part of growing the xx network community, are you willing to create content as part of operating an xx network BetaNet node? Examples would be node setup & on-boarding review vlog post, bi-weekly twitter update, medium review of on-going node operational process, etc. No
Why do you want to run a node in the xx network? To protect the privacy of political speech, To protect private personal communication around health and lifestyle issues from mass surveillance and abuse by centralized organizations, To promote quantum secure distributed systems, To earn xx coins, To help build David Chaum's vision of a decentralized world, To contribute to a promising project, To undo the centralization of the internet by big tech companies, To help build true digital cash to fuel a decentralized economy, To reverse the political centralization of legal, police, and military organizations which favor the wealthy and powerful
What is the difference between decentralized networks and distributed networks, and where on the decentralization spectrum do you sit? Distributed networks give you resilience. decentralized networks gives you fair distribution of power and influence
As best as you can given currently available information, please describe the value proposition of the xx network platform and how it differs from other current blockchain solutions. Fast transaction speed, scalability, quantum secure, metadata shreddimg, privacy, messaging, decentralized, open source
Privacy by Default is a goal of the xx network Platform. In your opinion, why is Privacy by Default critical for the future of the internet? Keep the liberty of individuals
In your opinion, what threat, if any, do quantum computers pose toward decentralized systems? What about centralized systems?
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Good answers!

Cool one!

I don’t think we can approve this application until it is confirmed that all hardware requirements are met, especially the CPU/GPU specs. It does not make sense to allow off-spec nodes to join the network when the forthcoming updates https://forum.xx.network/t/4k-prime-update/2586 are expected to wipe them out.
Also we have to make sure that the node is not run from a (Hetzner) DC, as we have already identified a large concentration of nodes in DC’s which conflicts with the decentralized nature of the network.
Don’t get me wrong: I really hope and invite you to join the network, we just need to be sure the requirements are fulfilled.

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My specs
AMD Ryzen9 3900 (12-Core), 128Gb DDR4 ECC, 2 x 1.92TB NVMe SSD (AX61 from Hetzner)

This spec does not meet the minimum requirement sorry

I need to setup GPU?

yes… you clearly did not read the minimum specification… GPU with RTX support is required for the matmul calculations…

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Without the GPU to meet the minimum spec I will vote ‘No’ on this application.

anyway, I hope this guy solves the problem with the GPU :slightly_smiling_face:

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Yes, please check the minimum requirements, a Turing GPU is required.

Note that CPU-only nodes running in over-represented datacenters (such as Hetzner) are now being disabled and asked to make changes to continue operating, see here.

Could you please confirm here that you will run a node with the required GPU? I’d consider that a necessary requirement to be preselected.

Yes, I will try to solve this problem

My new specs:
AMD Ryzen 9 3900 / 128Gb DDR4 RAM / NVMe 1.92TB / GeForce RTX 2080

Is it still with Hetzner? Hetzner does not offer GPUs in their bare metals. So unless you build a server yourself and send it over to them for co-location, it will not be possible to meet the specs you suggested at their data centres.

i dont know that(((
then I will use this datacenter https://selectel.ru/

I checked the Selectel page and they indeed offer suitable GPUs in their server configurator. I configured a server that somewhat meets the required specs of BetaNet. Although only the Intel Xeon E5 and Scalable CPUs allow to build a server with a GeForce RTX 2080Ti, and I don’t know if such CPUs would be compatible to run the node (maybe others can help out).

The configuration costs USD 710 per month. Would you be able to front-load these costs during BetaNet?

Sorry to pick on you, but I believe such questions are important for the pre-selection.

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Nice, Marc, as you’ve shown a VPS with the required GPU may indeed be very expensive. Applicants should really consider this fact. They may still choose to go ahead with an under-spec VPS (in a datacenter that should anyway not be over-represented), but they should be aware that even if their node might function under current betanet conditions, the computation demand will be ramping up soon and they may get into trouble down the road without the recommended GPU.

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Yes, very expensive. I am currently looking for other options. But if I don’t find anything suitable, I can build the server at home.

Right, if you truly want to observe the recommended specs, then a home server is probably cheaper in the long run.

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I’ll build own home server. Looking for a new ISP